Archit N.C. ([info]shadowsonic) wrote,
@ 2007-09-10 00:23:00
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Entry tags:random, real life

The dominoes are falling
So last night I talked to my dad on the phone.

This is not a rare occurrence - indeed, you might even describe it as a fairly regular one. What was unusual was the topic of conversation. Apparently one of my cousins (on my father's side) got engaged recently. This would not normally be a problem, except for two things:


  1. He got engaged with someone of his own choosing rather than his parents' and

  2. The girl isn't of the same caste.


His parents (my dad's elder brother and his wife) are apparently quite upset about the whole thing. Even my dad is a little surprised that his elder brother responded so negatively. In his own words, times have changed, and people have to adapt. Naturally I agree with him fully. If anything, this incident has reinforced for me that in spite of India's rapid economic growth these past few years, there are still way too many ancient prejudices and outdated customs that hold it back.

However, this isn't a post about my opinion of Indian society (I have plenty to write on that subject, but not today). What did get me thinking was something my dad asked me after we had finished discussing my cousin's marriage.

My dad: So it looks like your cousins are getting married one by one, haha.
Me: Yeah, I guess so.
My dad: When it's your turn, are you going to find your own wife or do you need Amma (Tamil for "mother") to look for you?
Me: ..... o_O;

Needless to say, the question pretty much floored me. lol
Everyone who reads this blog knows that I'm very serious when it comes to "work" stuff, often to the extent of sacrificing leisure time ("Ryu" from [info]szyl_kalimsshar, "So Studious" from [info]noirshiny, or [info]sycia's "Sir Science"...take your pick :P). Something I don't often think about is the fact that all this work I put into my studies has pretty much precluded my participation in...shall we say, the "dating game." Or, if you want to be more harsh, "a social life."

It doesn't really help that I can be summed up as a fat Indian guy with very un-Indian hobbies. I can see it right now:
Girl: So, what are your hobbies?
Me: I like playing video games and watching ani-
Girl: Check please!

:P

I'm going to be 23 this year, and to be honest, I'm starting to wonder if this is something I need to start paying attention to. Unfortunately, I wouldn't rate my own chances of finding a companion too highly. To compound this I'm not exactly enamoured with ye olde Indian matchmaking system either. :P

One thing I can say for sure: this isn't one of the things I was expecting to deal with once I started work...



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[info]szyl_kalimsshar
2007-09-10 07:27 am UTC (link)
Funny, my mom asked me the same question regarding the girls.

By her tone, it felt like it was a matter of life or death, but what she never got is that I do not want to look for girl unless I feel financially and socially (as in fit in the society) comfortable.

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[info]shadowsonic
2007-09-10 07:30 am UTC (link)
I think that's a reasonable thing - no sense making a commitment when you feel your life hasn't quite stabilised yet.

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[info]0style
2007-09-10 07:36 am UTC (link)
WOW SS stood for Sir Science? Perfect XD

Well we're still young and you shouldn't be too worried about finding someone. Love happens. (OMG that should be on a shirt) Ya, Sheba's right but sometimes opportunities pass. (just saying if there's a girl you have in mind atm) It's not like your goal is to get married this year. I say just ease into dating, like just ask girls out for lunch or something.

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[info]sycia
2007-09-10 08:56 am UTC (link)
:P That's what he's known as to me for responding to my random scientific questions.

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[info]neochaos
2007-09-10 07:37 am UTC (link)
I'm almost in the exact same boat here, re: social life (except replace "Indian" with "Pakistani") - all work and no play here. Parents aren't bugging me about women, though, though I imagine the family pressure for me to date will increase as my cousins do so.

But until then, I'll take it easy and wait. Still got a year before graduation.

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[info]sycia
2007-09-10 09:01 am UTC (link)
I don't have that problem of parents persuading me to get married because they know I'd rather eat babies anyway. That aside...

No one can or should force you to get married. It's some stupid fad in Asia to see your grandchildren ASAP to mark your genes' success through the generations. Well fuck that, and all your damn traditions, Asia.

Marriage to me is like a compromise; a compromise of 2 people's individual lives (read, GAME OVER for a person who enjoys a commitment-free single life). Getting into relationships and just testing the water's fine, but all in your own time. If you're not ready (regardless of whether you have a person in mind or not), no one should be pushing you off the deep end. And do it for you, not for anyone else. : )

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[info]monpochi
2007-09-10 09:25 am UTC (link)
My parents have given up persuading me directly as i mostly end up downplaying all their advances. (They do occasionally ask me if i want to be alone till i get wrinkly and shiz)

I do experience a bit of longing for the mush every now and then, but i really have a short attention span over the stuff (with all it's complications and all, blablablablaah). I just go emo for a minute, then shallow mode on the next.

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[info]penguin35
2007-09-10 12:19 pm UTC (link)
My parents think that I should get one, but since I'm always so secretive about my personal life they don't know whether I have one girlfriend or like a dozen, or is still single (at least they don't think I'm gay).

But yeah, better get some luv going on if you plan to look for a wife yourself.

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[info]penguin35
2007-09-10 03:30 pm UTC (link)
Or tell your dad that you liek trees. That ought to settle a few things.

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[info]enkiae
2007-09-10 02:25 pm UTC (link)
I got that question from my uncles a few times.

Though it has it's faults, I don't necessarily disagree with the arranged marriage system. It removes a lot of unnecessary and ultimately useless complications. I got too much to think about with work, studies, friends, and life in general to even START caring about dating (and relationships eat up TOO MUCH TIME). "Love" is something that builds with time and commitment, not a spur feeling.

But I can't agree to a marriage...just because I'm so ultimately disinterested in romane and the like it'd be too much of a burden to my other half, yknow? :S

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[info]ozkan
2007-09-10 10:40 pm UTC (link)
Don't worry about your interests. Women respond best to sincerity anyway. If you're genuinly interested and listen the repore will come. I am very far from a smooth talker, not that good looking or rich and still in the end a woman loved me enough to want to marry me, her family drama stopped that from happening (different background). You have a good job too and that helps a lot. Money does count, not for everything but for a lot. It's AFTER you get to know somebody that the real hubbaloo begins.
You, like me are far less experienced in these matters than most Western people of our age. For me it came through a totally random online encounter on a local forum actually. In both our cultures it's a little harder to get to know people in a way that's considered respectable by both families so maybe the internet is an option for you. You can talk openly and freely and get to know someone.
Anyway, like style said we're all still young and don't need to worry about marriage yet.

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[info]noirshiny
2007-09-12 04:19 am UTC (link)
Just showing my face. Everyone has pretty much covered the bases I wanted to touch.

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[info]waxinlyrical
2007-09-13 06:25 pm UTC (link)
I don't think our hobbies and interests are particularly dissimilar, and the fact that I like anime and video games hasn't stopped me from being in relationships. I mean, yes, I don't go around wearing Haruhi-ism T-shirts every day, or speaking in l337 in public, but I don't think any of my girlfriends have been particularly repulsed by the fact that I find sprites positioning themselves for optimal spacing and abusing move priorities fascinating.

(Although, having "favorite chemicals" and a large bookshelf on exiles in literature are pretty damn geeky hobbies too, so that's par for the course in terms of the hobbies my girlfriends have had)

While your hobbies are a large part of who you are, they don't account for everything that goes into your personality. Sure some girls might be turned off by the fact that we spend unhealthy amounts of time before a computer screen, but to be honest, anyone who is going to strike you off their list on your hobbies alone isn't someone you should be looking at either.

I do understand some of your concerns though. I think I've been tremendously lucky so far with regards to how my relationships have turned out, I can easily see how it could have gone wrong. We both don't like what passes for the traditional way of meeting new people interested in the dating scene here in the States - bars, loud music, alcohol, dancing, etc just aren't things we enjoy. How else are we supposed to meet new people?

I think the answer to that is just to not worry so much and take things as they come. Keep doing what you're interested in - You're much more likely to meet someone with similiar interests doing what you like doing than having some weird "I MUST GO MEET NEW PEOPLE" mindset. If anything I think coming across like someone who REALLY THINKS HE SHOULD BE WITH SOMEONE is kind of a turn-off anyway.

Don't feel pressured into searching for somebody to be with just because everyone says you shouldn't be by yourself. This is your life. Do what you want. Do what you think is right.

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